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SOCRATES: Why, i'm too, my boy, from him and everybody else who i think has a certified competence in any of this stuff. yet nonetheless and all, although every thing else approximately them i've got right down to a good measure, there is a small element approximately which i am puzzled that should be tested with you and those the following. inform me. to profit, isn't really it to develop into wiser in no matter what one learns? THEAETETUS: in fact. SOCRATES: definite, and the clever, i think, (are) clever by means of knowledge. THEAETETUS: sure. SOCRATES: And this does not fluctuate in any respect, does it, from wisdom E (science)? THEAETETUS: what kind of factor? SOCRATES: knowledge. Or is not it injust these issues during which they (are) an expert that they (are) clever? THEAETETUS: Why definitely. SOCRATES: SO ·knowledge and knowledge (are) a similar? 6 THEAETETUS: convinced. SOCRATES: good, this can be the very element approximately which i am confused, and i am incapable of greedy it competently alone, no matter what wisdom is. will we relatively say it? What do you all say? Who could 146 be the 1st folks to talk? the person who makes a mistake, and 1. 7 THEAETETUS 1468 whoever at any time makes a mistake, will, as youngsters enjoying ball say, take his seat, an ass; yet whoever prevails with no mistake, he will be our king and enjoin us to reply to no matter what he wishes. ' Why are you all silent? It without doubt cannot be, Theodorus, that during my love of speeches i'm being boorish, keen as i'm to make us communicate and turn into associates and collectively agreeable? eight B THEODORUS: no longer the least bit, Socrates, not anything of the kind will be boorish, yet urge any of the men to respond to you. i'm unused to dialog of this type, and i am no longer of an age to get used to it both. however it will be becoming for those the following, and they'd increase even more, for early life really is open to development in every little thing. But,just as you all started, do not allow move of Theaetetus yet ask away. SOCRATES: Do you listen, Theaetetus, what Theodorus is announcing? he is C no longer one, i believe, that you will be prepared to disobey, and it isn't sanctioned both for a more youthful to disobey a smart guy who enjoins issues of this kind. yet in a very good and noble model converse out. wisdom is what on your opinion? THEAETETUS: good, i need to, Socrates, because you all urge it, for if I do make any mistake, you will all at least right it. SOCRATES: convinced in fact, if, that's, we will. THEAETETUS: good, then, it is my opinion that no matter what one may possibly study from Theodorus are sciences (knowledges)-geometry and people D you simply now went via and, in flip, shoemaking and the humanities of the remainder of the craftsmen-all and every of them, are not anything else than wisdom. SOCRATES: that is noble and indulgent, my pricey, if you end up requested for one, you provide many and intricate rather than uncomplicated. THEAETETUS: simply how do you suggest this, Socrates? SOCRATES: might be it is not anything, yet what i believe, even if, i'm going to indicate. everytime you say leathermaking, you are not declaring the rest, are you, than an information of the making of trainers? THEAETETUS: not anything else. E SOCRATES: And what approximately in case you say carpentry?